Of course Abby has some thoughts on what went down at the Grammys on Sunday, plus a new bad/good narrative fiction pod recommendation for you. Then she’s joined by one of oldest friends, Amanda Haury, to talk You People on Netflix, The Last of Us on HBO, their childhood dreams of appearing on the The Bozo Show’s Grand Prize Game and Double Dare, their high school’s most famous (and infamous) alumni, late ‘80s R&B, OG Nintendo games, and much more.