Steve Falconer, the guy who runst the Spacebusters channel, and Jerm cover awide range of topics, from vaccination to how COVID-19 has shifted views onhealth. They share personal stories about vaccines and the growing interest inalternative ideas. They also explore the role of authority and control, the effectsof 911 and the war on terror, and the current political scene. The chat includesthe impact of technology and AI, transhumanism, and how power and controlwork in society. Steve and Jerm reflect on how media shapes stories and howconspiracy theories influence public debate, ending with thoughts on the futureof humanity and societal systems.