DR. MICHAEL SHERMER x Michael Decon - JORDAN PETERSON AND BEN SHAPIRO
Oct 18, 2019
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Dr. Michael Shermer discusses a range of interesting topics including the 'Woke' culture, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Tom Delonge, skepticism, science, religion, the problem of evil, flat earth phenomenon, public vs private schools, media's power, UFOs, and the controversy surrounding the NBA's relationship with China.
Understanding religious stories as moral narratives in their cultural context.
Jordan Peterson's message resonates with those seeking guidance and personal responsibility.
Importance of critical thinking and differentiation between evidence-based conspiracy theories and baseless claims.
Deep dives
The Importance of Skepticism and Myth Interpretation
Dr. Michael Schurmer discusses the importance of skepticism and the interpretation of myths and stories. He argues that focusing too much on the veracity of religious stories or myths misses the point of these narratives, which are often intended to convey moral messages. Schurmer emphasizes the value of understanding the cultural and historical context of these stories.
Jordan Peterson and the Power of Personal Responsibility
The podcast highlights the popularity and controversy surrounding Jordan Peterson, a prominent figure known for his self-help advice and intellectual commentary. His message often resonates with individuals looking for guidance and a father figure-like figure. Despite criticism from some quarters, Peterson's emphasis on personal responsibility and facing the challenges of life resonates with many of his followers.
The Rise of Flat Earth Theory and Conspiracy Theorists
The discussion explores the phenomenon of the flat earth theory and the rise of conspiracy theorists. The podcast delves into the motivations behind individuals who believe in unconventional theories and the appeal of having insider knowledge. It highlights the importance of critical thinking and the need to differentiate between genuine conspiracy theories with evidence and baseless claims.
Religious interpretations of a flat earth
The speaker discusses the idea that certain religious interpretations, particularly from fundamentalist perspectives, contribute to the belief in a flat earth. This belief is influenced by the notion of the Old Testament describing the heavens as a canopy-like structure above the earth. The speaker suggests this was influenced by Babylonian cosmology and the visual perception of a dome of stars. The flat earth model is perceived as intuitive and makes sense when one does not feel the earth's motion. The speaker highlights the influence of religious and historical factors in the belief in a flat earth.
Ben Shapiro's arguments on abortion
The speaker mentions that the podcast episode delves into Ben Shapiro's arguments on abortion, highlighting his ability to present a strong case from the pro-life perspective. Shapiro is praised for his logical and quick-thinking approach, offering arguments that challenge the commonly held assumption that the pro-choice position is the only rational one. The speaker mentions that Shapiro uses examples, such as sharing the definition of a fetus, to refute arguments against the fetus being considered a human being. The speaker emphasizes the need to listen to well-constructed arguments from both sides of the abortion debate and acknowledges Shapiro's effectiveness as a debater in the pro-life movement.
Episode 190: Skepticism 101
Michael Brant Shermer is an American science writer, historian of science, founder of The Skeptics Society, and editor-in-chief of its magazine Skeptic, which is largely devoted to investigating pseudoscientific and supernatural claims. The Skeptics Society currently has over 55,000 members. Michael joined the program to talk about a plethora of topics including, The “Woke” culture”, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro & Tom Delonge.
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