Casper and Vanessa explore the theme of Courage in chapter nineteen of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. This week we discuss Hermione’s grief after Ron leaves, Ron’s courage in coming back, and the importance of mentorship. Throughout the episode we consider the question: how do you hold space for the vulnerability and uncomfortableness of courage?

Thanks to Odelya for this week's voicemail! Next week we’re be reading Chapter 20, Xenophilius Lovegood, through the theme of Reality.

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