

Episode 37: We Need to Talk About Usha
Oct 29, 2024
In conversation with Moira and Adrian, Irin Carmon, a New York writer and CNN contributor, delves into the life of Usha Vance, a figure navigating complex gender politics. They explore the contrast between public personas and personal struggles of ambitious women like Usha and Ivanka Trump. Topics include the fallout from sexual harassment allegations at Yale Law, the balancing act of ambition and family life, and the evolving narratives around gender roles. Carmon challenges listeners to rethink how political influences shape personal identities and relationships.
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Differing Paths at Yale
- JD Vance thrived in Yale Law School's social scene, mentored by Amy Chua.
- Usha Vance, his wife, navigated the system through traditional achievement, excelling academically.
Tribal Loyalty vs. Feminism
- Usha Vance defended Brett Kavanaugh, echoing Amy Chua's familial view of women's empowerment.
- This reflects a tribalistic loyalty rather than feminism.
Conservative Femininity
- Usha Vance's loyalty and defensiveness are characteristic of conservative feminities.
- She prioritizes the men in her circle, similar to her public support of Kavanaugh and now JD Vance.