Peggy Seeger on her husband Ewan MacColl

Ewan MacColl sang "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" to Peggy Seeger down the phone. When they met, Peggy says, he was in the grip of his midlife crisis. "I'm fond of saying the poor boy didn't stand a chance," she tells Matthew Parris.

This programme is her attempt to set the record straight. "I'd like to do a bit of justice to him, because there's an awful lot of myths, an awful lot of bad talk, misunderstandings."

Ewan MacColl was born Jimmy Miller in Salford, which he wrote about in 1949 in his song, "Dirty Old Town."

He made his name in theatre, was married to Joan Littlewood, and after the second world war he was a powerful force behind the folk revival. He also with Peggy Seeger and Charles Parker created the famous Radio Ballads.

Peggy is joined in discussion by Peter Cox, author of Set Into Song.

The programme is heavily illustrated with MacColl's music and his voice.

Produced by Miles Warde.

First broadcast on BBC Radio 4 in September 2021.