In this episode Toby sits down with Jesus Piece vocalist Aaron Heard! He talks about touring, being a Dad, balancing life, Philly, his family, skating, sports as a kid, different bands he was in, moving to Cali, the band name, first shows, going meatless, getting into game programming during the pandemic, becoming a parent, his dad, social media, social issues, the effect of hardcore music, moshing, musical influences and therapy.

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