Charlie McCann, the Southeast Asia correspondent for The Economist, dives into the turmoil in Myanmar following Aung San Suu Kyi's recent four-year prison sentence. He discusses the implications of her verdict on public dissent and the military's tightening grip on power. The conversation also highlights concerns about Interpol's leadership amid rising authoritarianism globally, alongside innovative ideas like seasteading as a potential solution to climate challenges. McCann's insights reveal the complex interplay between governance, resistance, and the future of democracy in Myanmar.