Google DeepMind: The Podcast Pt.2 Beyond Phishing: Cyber Threats in the Age of AI with Four Flynn
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Oct 16, 2025 Four Flynn, VP of security at Google DeepMind, brings his extensive cybersecurity expertise to the forefront. He reveals the motivations behind bad actors, from nation-states to ransomware groups. The discussion dives into the risks posed by AI in social engineering, including deepfakes and voice cloning. Flynn highlights the growing market for vulnerabilities and the ethics behind it. He advocates for innovative security measures like passkeys and explains the complex challenges faced by autonomous agents in ensuring privacy.
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Diverse Motivations Behind Cyber Attacks
- Bad actors include nation-states aiming at espionage and pre-positioning critical infrastructure for future conflict.
- Independent and loosely affiliated groups conduct financially motivated attacks like ransomware for profit.
AI Could Democratize Exploit Discovery
- AI can amplify vulnerability discovery and make zero-days cheaper and widely accessible to bad actors.
- Defensive investment must outpace misuse to prevent ecosystem destabilization.
Publish Vulnerabilities To Force Fixes
- Use transparent vulnerability disclosure with deadlines to force timely fixes.
- Project Zero's 90-day rule made companies prioritize and patch vulnerabilities faster.