Earlier this week, Vladimir Putin held a rally in Moscow.

Even as Russia continued to lose ground in his war in Ukraine, he was defiant; calling the west satanic and making the case for a greater Russian empire.

But the most significant thing about what Putin said that day was what it represented: a turn to the ultra-nationalism of the Russian far-right.

Today, Associate Professor at the ANU Strategic and Defence Studies Centre Matthew Sussex on what Putin is doing now that he is desperate and what he could unleash.

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Guest: Associate Professor at the ANU Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, Matthew Sussex.

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