

Eps.66 | Moving from AI literacy to fluency: Josh Mackenzie on preparing early careers for an automated future
Tim Bond speaks with Josh Mackenzie, Founder and Chairman of Development Beyond Learning, about how the transition from AI literacy to AI fluency is reshaping skill requirements for graduates and early career talent. Josh explains why human skills become more essential as AI tools become more prevalent in the workplace.
Josh shares:
- The distinction between AI literacy (a technical transition) and AI fluency (a human skills question)
- Why self-awareness and resilience remain the biggest skills gaps for young people entering the workforce
- How employers can prepare early career talent for an increasingly AI-augmented workplace
- The concept of becoming "agent bosses" who manage digital colleagues
- Common pitfalls such as the "trust trap" (over-trusting AI outputs) and the "speed trap" (prioritising speed over quality)
- How personalised AI-enabled learning is transforming corporate training
Timestamps:
00:00:17 Introduction and topic overview
00:02:00 Job predictions and the impact of AI on employment
00:04:43 Key skills for early talent in an AI-augmented workplace
00:07:25 The difference between AI literacy and AI fluency
00:11:50 University education value in the AI era
00:14:22 Changing graduate recruitment approaches
00:18:27 Self-awareness and resilience as critical skills gaps
00:21:47 Common AI usage traps to avoid
00:23:43 Development Beyond Learning's vision and AI innovations
00:29:04 AI-enabled personalised learning solutions
Want to learn more?
Visit Development Beyond Learning website: https://www.developmentbeyondlearning.com
Connect with Josh Mackenzie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-mackenzie-92795710/
Connect with Tim Bond: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tngbond/
Reid Riffs - AI on education https://podcasts.apple.com/cm/podcast/reid-riffs-on-pbcs-jobs-and-automation-and-ai-access-for-kids/id1677184070?i=1000708426358&l=en-GB
2025:The Year the Frontier Firm Is Born - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/worklab/work-trend-index/2025-the-year-the-frontier-firm-is-born
If you like our podcast, please do follow us and rate each episode.
Do you have burning topics or questions you'd like us to explore on the podcast?
Email our team at podcasts@techpros.io
Find out more about TechPros.io: https://techpros.io/
Upcoming Events and Roundtables: https://techpros.io/virtual-experiences/
Join our budding podcast community on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/enterprise-thought-leadership/