Matt Levine sits down with Christoph Grasser, an audio engineer, musician, producer, and the head of strategy for Auphonic, an all-in-one audio post-production web tool.

They discuss why finding a loyal niche audience is more valuable than chasing viral success, how to not let technical barriers kill your ideas, why most people still prefer audio podcasts, and how AI will make content creation more accessible.

Chris starts by sharing his journey from supporting artists behind the scenes to becoming the head of strategy at Auphonic.
Matt and Chris discuss why cleaning up audio is so satisfying. There’s a deep sense of fulfillment in taking raw, imperfect recordings and transforming them into something clear and professional.
Chris’s #1 pet peeve in podcasting: poorly produced audio due to lack of effort. It’s not about having the most expensive gear—it’s about caring enough to make an effort.
Chris explains why he gets frustrated when he hears podcasts with bad audio quality.
The myth of the dying audio engineer—why AI and automation won’t replace them.
Some people think that with AI tools, human audio engineers will become obsolete. Chris disagrees, explaining why technology can assist but not replace the ear, skill, and creative touch of a trained audio professional.
Why most podcasters just want simplicity and getting content out matters more than perfection.
Too many people with valuable stories never start a podcast because the technology seems overwhelming. Chris believes the real goal should be removing these barriers so that everyone can get their message out.
Chris and Matt discuss the power of podcasting and why it’s one of the few art forms where creative independence still thrives.
Unlike traditional media, podcasting doesn’t require approval from gatekeepers. Matt and Chris discuss how this freedom allows creators to experiment, find their voice, and connect with their audiences.
Understand that not every podcast will blow up, and that’s okay. Your goal as a podcaster should be finding and serving your core fans who love what you do.
Most podcasts won’t go viral, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t successful. Matt and Chris share how finding a loyal niche audience is often more valuable than trying to appeal to the masses.
Chris on the unique element of podcasting: Unlike other media, podcasting creates an intimate connection between the speaker and the listener. This personal touch is what makes podcasts so powerful and enduring.
In a world of AI-generated content and social media noise, people crave real, human interactions. Chris believes that the most successful podcasts in the future will be the ones that build genuine relationships with their audiences.
Chris highlights why video podcasting is blowing up in the U.S. but still trailing in Europe.
Learn how AI and better tools will lower the barrier to entry, making content creation easier than ever.
Chris reveals what a new generation of podcast listeners wants, and how podcasters can serve younger audiences who are used to consuming content in quick, bite-sized clips.
Why skill doesn’t equal popularity when it comes to podcasting—Matt and Chris share their thoughts on why some of the most talented creators go unnoticed, while others with less skill thrive.
Success in the creative space is often more about marketing, timing, and audience connection than pure ability.
The real reason top podcasts succeed. It’s not content quality, it’s marketing.
Many of the biggest podcasts don’t have the best production or most insightful discussions. Chris explains how branding, consistency, and visibility often matter more than raw content quality.
According to Matt, people don’t care if a YouTube video is in 4K or 1080p, but they do care if it’s blurry and unwatchable.
Chris shares his thoughts on why the most extreme voices attract the biggest audiences. In today’s media landscape, anger and controversy generate more engagement than thoughtful discussion.
Chris’s trick for getting the right answers online—just post the wrong answer.
How AI is viewed differently in the U.S. vs. Europe.
AI in podcasting: a tool or shortcut? AI can be a powerful assistant, but Chris believes using it to remove all effort from content creation leads to soulless, uninspired work. He believes effort and struggle are key parts of creativity.
Chris’s advice for launching an audio career: Put yourself out there. No amount of theory or training can replace real-world experience.

Mentioned in This Episode:

Auphonic.com

Christoph Grasser on LinkedIn

Pryne.org

Pryne Band on Instagram

theanycast.com/s2e9

Demystifying Marriage