Philosophy for the People

Analyzing (Some of) Jordan Peterson’s Claims

Jun 23, 2025
Pat and Mike dive into Jordan Peterson's claims from his recent appearance. They challenge the idea that atheists misunderstand God and explore the nuances of morality beyond science. Distinctions between agnosticism and outright rejection are highlighted, using relatable examples. The hosts unpack the concept of worship and its cultural baggage, questioning Peterson's assertion that everyone worships something. They also examine whether atheists adopt Christian morals while rejecting their narratives, emphasizing a deeper understanding of shared values.
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INSIGHT

Atheists Often Understand What They Reject

  • Peterson's claim that "atheists reject God because they don't understand it" is too sweeping and often false.
  • Pat Flynn and Mike Schramm point out many atheists reject well-defined theistic propositions with philosophical clarity.
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Pat Flynn's Path From Skepticism

  • Pat Flynn recounts being a former skeptic who needed conceptual help to accept a different God.
  • He says his earlier rejected 'cartoon' God remained rejectable until he encountered richer descriptions.
INSIGHT

Morality Goes Beyond Science

  • Morality and purpose aren't delivered by the physical sciences alone.
  • Science supplies empirical facts, but moral realism or telos require extra-scientific philosophical commitments.
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