Citibank 29 Million Points Shutdown, Chase Cardholder Gifts, Squeezing in Maui & Chicago Xmas Market
Dec 2, 2024
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Shawn and Mark dive into the evolving world of credit card rewards, discussing Chase's customer gifts and the fallout from Citibank's controversial account closure. They compare Hawaiian travel experiences, debating the merits of Oahu versus Maui. The duo also explores how banks are stepping into the role of travel agents, affecting redemption rates and travel perks. Finally, they share their festive adventures at Chicago's Christmas markets, reminiscing about holiday shopping highlights and the allure of European markets.
Chase's recent decade loyalty gift reflects the evolving landscape of customer appreciation in credit card rewards programs and their impact on loyalty.
Social engineering proves essential for navigating bank interactions, demonstrating that personal relationships can significantly enhance customer experiences and benefits.
Deep dives
Unexpected Tokens of Appreciation
Chase recently sent a gift to celebrate a decade of loyalty as an Ink cardholder, which highlights the importance of banks showing appreciation to their customers. The package included cookies and brownies adorned with the Chase Inc. logo, reflecting a thoughtful gesture from the brand. While the items received were enjoyable, there was a critique regarding their freshness, demonstrating that even well-intentioned gifts can have room for improvement. This discussion leads to a broader examination of customer loyalty programs and how different banks reward their loyal clients, showcasing the variety of gifts other banks have offered over the years.
The Evolution of Credit Card Benefits
The landscape of credit card rewards has changed significantly over the years, particularly with Chase's 5x earning structure for specific categories. What used to be simpler processes for sign-ups and point generation has turned into a more complicated system influenced by popularity and market saturation. The speaker reminisces about the days when it was easier to leverage points and credits, reflecting a nostalgic viewpoint on how the industry has adapted and evolved. These changes also provoke conversations about the long-term sustainability of current reward structures and potential shifts in consumer experience.
Navigating the Complexities of Loyalty Programs
Social engineering emerges as a key strategy for successfully navigating the complexities within loyalty programs and bank interactions. Many successful individuals in the travel rewards space utilize relationship-building techniques to enhance their experiences with bank representatives, highlighting that personal connections can ease transactions. Furthermore, the discussion points to specific instances where effective communication can lead to favorable outcomes, especially when negotiating terms or accessing unique benefits. It underscores the philosophical notion that understanding and relating to others can enhance transactional relationships in finance.
The Importance of Responsible Banking Relationships
The conversation addresses misconceptions about the relationship between consumers and banks, emphasizing that loyal customers often contribute positively to the bank's ecosystem. Individuals who pay their annual fees and responsibly manage their cards should be seen as good customers, despite occasional rule adjustments from the banks. This perspective invites listeners to reflect on the ongoing dialogue regarding customer treatment in a competitive market, pointing out that these relationships should be viewed with nuance. Ultimately, it calls for a balanced understanding of the roles that both consumers and financial institutions play in the loyalty reward landscape.
In this conversation, Shawn and Mark discuss their experiences with credit card rewards, particularly focusing on Chase's loyalty program and the gifts received for long-term cardholding. They delve into the evolution of credit card rewards, the importance of social engineering in banking, and a recent controversial case involving Citibank's account closure of a high-profile customer. The discussion also touches on the allure and perks of the American Express black card, highlighting the differences in customer service and experience for high-spending clients.
The two also discuss more on Shawn's redemption decision to Hawaii, Mark's small town weekend trip, Chicago Christmas markets and how Black Friday went.
Episode Guide
0:00 Chase cardholder gifts & debating their rules & product changes over the years
10:51 Citibank shuts down customer, takes 29 million ThankYou points
14:55 The best card for high net worth/big spenders?
19:21 Squeezing in multiple Hawaiian islands to a trip?
24:00 Bank travel portals & behind their redemption rates
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