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In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey talk about how Type 7s can move beyond their core type patterns by incorporating tools from Type 1 and Type 5. Enneagram and Marriage author and podcaster, Christa Hardin, joins the show and shares how she's experienced an overattachment to optimism and new experiences. She also talks about the ways she uses tools from other types in her personal life and work. Everyone plays Trial by Trolley, a game with a series of moral dilemmas, where Christa has to decide between a scientist with the cure for cancer or her grandma.