Michael talks with David Shields about THE VERY LAST INTERVIEW, the consequence of choosing art over life, the link between humor and hopelessness, the plots underneath his collage or "plotless" work, books that are about what they're about, a new co-written film I'LL SHOW YOU MINE, the beauty and inevitable failure of an interview, new projects, and more.
David Shields is the author of The Very Last Interview (NYRB, 2022) and over twenty previous books, including Reality Hunger and How Literature Saved My Life. He's also the director of the film Lynch: A History and cowriter of the film I'll Show You Mine.
Podcast theme: DJ Garlik & Bertholet's "Special Sause" used with permission from Bertholet.