
Future Learning Design Podcast
Systems-led Leadership - A Conversation with Daniela Papi-Thornton
Nov 5, 2023
Daniela Papi-Thornton, an educator, facilitator, and author, discusses systems-led leadership and the importance of understanding root problems for meaningful change. The podcast explores the role of educational institutions in supporting young social innovators and the need for a shift towards a systems-led approach in education. It also delves into the intersection of audacity and humility in business strategy, the importance of self-awareness and lived experiences in problem-solving, and the concept of systems-led leadership and making a larger impact.
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Quick takeaways
- Incentivizing long-term contributions to wider change is more important than seeking quick fixes in social innovation.
- The education system should recognize and promote diverse pathways to change, rather than prioritizing entrepreneurship as the only valuable form of contribution.
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Incentivizing Wider Change
The podcast episode emphasizes the importance of incentivizing people to contribute to wider change rather than looking for quick fixes. The speaker highlights the challenge of changing an education system compared to building a school, and discusses the need to encourage individuals to try different approaches to solving complex social issues.
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