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The podcast episode explores the concept of free will and whether it is an illusion. The debate centers around the idea that human agency and decision-making can be explained by evolutionary processes, genetics, and subconscious factors. Susan Blackmore argues that free will is an illusion, highlighting the lack of a persistent self and the role of neuroscience in understanding decision-making. Kevin Mitchell, on the other hand, presents the idea that humans possess conscious cognitive control, which allows for purposeful behavior and agency. He emphasizes that the indeterminacy of the universe provides room for organisms to exert control and make choices. The discussion delves into the distinction between agency and the sense of a persistent "me" inside the human brain. While the debate remains inconclusive, it encourages listeners to contemplate their own perspectives on free will.