

Episode 4598: Big Beautiful Bill Fight Continues
Jun 30, 2025
Stephen Myron, Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors, dives into the tumultuous debates over a controversial bill affecting the debt ceiling and budget cuts. He discusses the potential economic growth through proposed tax incentives and how they could drive job creation. The conversation touches on the complex dynamics between BRICS nations and U.S. policies, and the urgent need for AI regulation amid growing public concern. Myron also highlights the political messaging needed to engage low-information voters as legislative battles heat up.
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Dynamic Growth from Investment Incentives
- The bill's full expensing on equipment and factories strongly incentivizes investment and job creation.\n- This investment boosts economic growth, which in turn increases government revenue dynamically.
Huge Deficit Reduction Discrepancy
- The administration predicts $8.5 to $11 trillion in deficit reduction due to growth, tariffs, and spending cuts.\n- This contrasts sharply with the CBO's static estimate of a $3 trillion deficit increase.
CBO Misses Dynamic Revenue Effects
- CBO scores the bill without accounting for the additional economic activity triggered by tax incentives.\n- Increased factory building and investment lead to more income and tax revenue not captured by CBO's model.