Oxide and Friends

A Happy Day For Rust

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Mar 15, 2025
Dirkjan Ochtman, a key member of the rustup team, and Steve Klabnik, a long-time contributor to the Rust community, share insights about the recent positive changes in the Rust toolchain. They discuss how community collaboration can transform challenges into triumphs. The duo highlights the balance of user-friendliness and technical precision in software development, while also reflecting on the Rust community's evolution and inclusivity efforts. Their engaging anecdotes and passionate discussions make this an essential listen for anyone in the programming world.
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ANECDOTE

RVM and rbenv

  • Early Rust developers learned from other languages' ecosystems, including Ruby's version managers (RVM and rbenv).
  • RVM's creator quit open source due to community negativity, which Steve Klabnik considered when similar issues arose with Rustup.
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Rust's Product Focus

  • The Rust project adopts a product-focused approach, consolidating development effort on single tools.
  • This differs from other languages that have multiple competing tools, resulting in less ecosystem diversity.
ANECDOTE

Dirkjan's Maintainer Journey

  • Dirkjan Ochtman became a Rustup maintainer after it was under-maintained, similar to his involvement with Chrono, Flamegraph, and Indicative.
  • He was motivated to replace Rustup's curl usage with reqwest and rustls.
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