It’s Double Tash Thursday! Welcome! Jane picks her pope of the week (no prizes for guessing who), they also cover UFO sightings, riding side saddle, and not getting Charlie Chaplin. Haveagoodone.

Plus, pioneering brain surgeon and writer Henry Marsh reflects on his career and discusses the new documentary about his life 'Confessions of a Brain Surgeon'.

We've announced our next book club pick! 'Just Kids' is by Patti Smith.

You can listen to the playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3qIjhtS9sprg864IXC96he?si=uOzz4UYZRc2nFOP8FV_1jg&pi=BGoacntaS_uki

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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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