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Tim Miller vs 20 Gen Z Conservatives

Nov 26, 2025
Tim Miller, a former Republican strategist turned Democratic commentator, engages in a lively debate against 20 Gen Z conservatives. He labels ICE as a fascist entity, arguing against its practices and advocating for humane immigration solutions. Tim critiques the Trump administration for undermining American values and highlights the toll of gun rights, suggesting that safety measures similar to car regulations could reduce gun fatalities. The conversation also touches on the comparative governance of red and blue states, urging a more humanized approach to political discourse.
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INSIGHT

ICE Tactics Versus Rule Of Law

  • Tim Miller argues ICE has become fascist when agents use masked unmarked cars to detain people without due process.
  • He says border enforcement can exist without tactics that harass citizens or legal residents.
ANECDOTE

George Redis Detained Without A Passport

  • Tim tells the story of George Redis, a dual citizen detained at a car wash after ICE demanded a passport he didn't have on his person.
  • Redis was jailed despite holding U.S. documents and later identified as an American citizen.
ADVICE

Prioritize Criminals And Create Pathways

  • Start immigration enforcement by prioritizing criminals and using existing agencies like FBI and CBP for appropriate roles.
  • Provide humane pathways to citizenship for long-term residents while reserving enforcement for clear legal violations.
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