State of America’s Fathers report author Brian Heilman joins to talk about the status of American dads in 2016. We discuss the differing challenges white collar, college educated dads are facing compared to less educated, lower income fathers. We also look at the impact of a dad’s increased involvement on his children, his partner, and himself.

The Parents Phrase Book author Whit Honea joins us with a conversation he recorded with his son about the state of fathers in their Los Angeles suburb.