Backend Banter

#062 - Declaring War Against the Frontend feat. Sam Selikoff

Jul 15, 2024

Join host and backend specialist in a friendly war with Sam Selikoff, frontend expert. They discuss abstractions, JavaScript uniqueness, frontend over backend control, RSCs, and more. Learn why frontend should lead backend, and how types should flow. Dive into React Server Components and the importance of standardized interfaces.

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Quick takeaways

Frontend should lead backend development for better user-driven products.

JavaScript offers unique features impacting development compared to other languages.

Server components in React enable seamless integration of server-side logic with client-side interactions.

Deep dives

Introduction to Front End First Podcast Episode

The episode engages in a banter between Back End Bancer and Front End First, discussing the contrast between front-end and back-end development perspectives. Sam Selikoff and the host explore the differences in focus between front-end and back-end development, touching on their experiences in the respective fields.

Intro

2min

Understanding Abstractions in Front-End and Back-End Frameworks

31min

Discussion on Programming Abstraction Levels and Testing Data Layer Functionalities

2min

Exploring the Impact of Language vs Framework on Cohesion and Flexibility in Development

2min

Shifting Focus to Frontend Development and User Value

2min

Separating Product Decisions from Technical Decisions

16min

Exploring Remix Framework, Server Components, and Future Abstractions in React

4min

In today’s episode, we go to war with Sam Selikoff, co-host of the Frontend First podcast, and specialist on everything Frontend related.

We have an amazing conversation where we discuss Sam’s journey, as he also did some backend work in the past, we talk about abstractions, what JavaScript is doing differently from other languages and frameworks, why the frontend should be driving the backend and not the other way around, and finish it off with a discussion about RSCs (React Server Components).

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:51 Who is Sam Selikoff

02:12 Abstractions - Should you go a level deeper?

06:37 What was Sam's talk about

10:51 What is JavaScript doing differently?

19:10 Do you want the frameworks to push more features out of the box for backend work?

24:04 Strong opinions on a library level

30:29 Shipping more standardized interfaces

37:06 The frontend should be driving everything in the backend

39:12 Your types should flow from the database to the frontend, but not the product decisions

46:53 React Server Components

58:49 Where to find Sam

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Backend Banter

#062 - Declaring War Against the Frontend feat. Sam Selikoff

Episode guests

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

Deep dives

Introduction to Front End First Podcast Episode

Importance of Product-Driven Development in Front-End

Exploring the Concept of Server Components in React

Enhancing Cohesion with Server Components

Insights on the Evolution of Front-End Development

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