
 How We Live Now with Katherine May
 How We Live Now with Katherine May Camille T. Dungy on unearthing histories
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 Dec 15, 2023  Camille T. Dungy, author, discusses gardens as a means of social control and conformity. They explore the complexity of the relationship between Black Americans and nature, subtle exclusionary behavior, creating a garden bed as a reflection of grief, and the challenges of balancing motherhood and writing. 
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 Introduction 
 00:00 • 3min 
 Gardening and Deeper Meanings 
 02:42 • 21min 
 The Complex Relationship Between Black Americans and Nature 
 23:25 • 10min 
 Discussing Subtle Exclusionary Behavior and Analogy to a Destructive Plant 
 33:34 • 2min 
 Creating a Garden Bed and the Simplicity of Grief 
 35:53 • 2min 
 Reflections on Motherhood and Writing 
 37:37 • 12min 
 Reflections, Gratitude, and Future Endeavors 
 49:35 • 5min 
