
Fast People Mike Smith: From NAU to the Swoosh TC | Episode 23
Nov 26, 2025
Mike Smith, a renowned track and cross-country coach who led Northern Arizona University to multiple national titles, now heads Nike's Swoosh TC in Flagstaff. In this conversation, he reveals the challenges of balancing college and professional coaching. Mike discusses the transition to building a pro team, the influence of NIL on collegiate athletics, and the importance of elite training partners. He shares insights on fostering professionalism among young athletes and the emotional journey of coaching, including supporting postpartum athletes like Rachel.
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Coaching Both College And Pros Burned Him Out
- Mike Smith describes juggling NAU director duties with pro athletes and year-round competition that left little downtime.
- He says the calendars overlapped so much it felt like a tempo run started too fast and became unsustainable.
Worlds vs. NAU Preseason Prompted The Choice
- The 2023 summer World Championships coincided with NAU preseason and forced a choice between two high-stakes commitments.
- Mike realized he couldn't be in both places and owed a decision to his athletes and family.
Limit Roster Size To Teach Pro Habits
- Keep professional groups small to give young pros the education and attention they need.
- Teach fresh pros how to live like professionals rather than assuming college habits suffice.

