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#399 – Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East

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Oct 11, 2023

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Jared Kushner

Jared Kushner, former Senior Advisor to President Trump and author of 'Breaking History', shares profound insights on the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict. He discusses the escalation after the recent Hamas attacks and the human impact on both sides. Kushner delves into U.S. foreign policy's evolving strategies, the significance of empathy in negotiations, and the necessity of understanding shared humanity in resolving tensions. He also reflects on personal resilience stemming from challenges in his life, advocating for dialogue and economic growth as pathways to peace.

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ANECDOTE

Father's Arrest

Kushner shares a story about his father's arrest and the impact it had on his family.
He discusses learning about loyalty, disloyalty, and the importance of focusing on what he could control.

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INSIGHT

Humility

Kushner reflects on his father's advice about humility, recognizing that God is in control.
This experience taught him to stay grounded and focus on his values.

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INSIGHT

Money and Power

Kushner observes that money and power amplify existing character traits, not create new ones.
He emphasizes the importance of having good friends to keep leaders grounded.

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#8453

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Breaking History

A White House Memoir

Jared Kushner

In *Breaking History*, Jared Kushner provides a candid and fast-paced account of his time in the Trump administration. The book takes readers through debates in the Oval Office, tense meetings in Arab palaces, and high-stakes negotiations. Kushner, an outsider among Washington's power brokers, details his role in breaking through historical stalemates and achieving significant results in areas such as trade, criminal justice reform, COVID-19 vaccine production, and Middle East peace. His negotiation of the Abraham Accords, a major diplomatic breakthrough, earned him a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize. The memoir offers a nuanced and definitive understanding of the Trump presidency and its impact on U.S. policy and international relations.

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Thirteen days in September

Carter, Begin, and Sadat at Camp David

Lawrence Wright

In 'Thirteen Days in September,' Lawrence Wright provides a detailed and engaging narrative of the Camp David peace talks. The book intertwines a concise history of Egyptian-Israeli relations with the personal histories of the key participants, including Carter, Begin, and Sadat. Wright highlights the complex interplay of politics, faith, and personal backgrounds that influenced the negotiations, offering a compelling insight into the challenges and triumphs of the peace process. The book is praised for its meticulous research, balanced perspective, and engaging storytelling.

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The Guns of August

Barbara W. Tuchman

In this landmark account, Barbara W. Tuchman re-creates the first month of World War I, tracing the events from the funeral of Edward VII to the battles on the Western and Eastern fronts. The book focuses on the political machinations and military strategies that led to the outbreak of war, highlighting the roles of key players and the inevitability of the conflict. Tuchman's narrative is known for its comprehensive and engaging portrayal of the period, making it a classic in historical literature.

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The hundred-year marathon

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Prisoners of Geography

Ten Maps That Tell You Everything You Need to Know About Global Politics

Tim Marshall

In 'Prisoners of Geography,' Tim Marshall argues that geography plays a crucial role in shaping the decisions and actions of world leaders. The book examines ten key regions, including Russia, China, the United States, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, India and Pakistan, Japan and Korea, and the Arctic, using maps to illustrate how geographical factors influence geopolitical strategies. Marshall challenges the idea that technology can overcome geographical constraints, emphasizing that understanding geography is essential for grasping the complexities of global politics and conflict. The book provides a fresh perspective on why certain geopolitical events occur, such as Russia's annexation of Crimea and China's expanding power base, and highlights the ongoing relevance of geography in an increasingly interconnected world.

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Destined for War

Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap?

Graham Allison

In 'Destined for War,' Graham Allison explores the concept of the 'Thucydides Trap,' where the rise of a new power threatens the dominance of an existing one, often leading to war. Allison draws on 16 historical cases where a rising power challenged a dominant state, with 12 of these cases resulting in war. He applies this historical lens to the current relationship between the United States and China, highlighting the potential for conflict but also outlining '12 clues to peace' derived from historical analysis to prevent such an outcome. The book is divided into sections that cover the rise of China, historical lessons from the Peloponnesian War and other conflicts, and strategies for avoiding war based on these historical insights.

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The great degeneration

Sir Niall Ferguson

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Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/jared-kushner-transcript

EPISODE LINKS:
Breaking History (book): https://amzn.to/3QblTNk
Jared’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/jaredkushner
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Books Mentioned:
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The Guns of August: https://amzn.to/3FbWD3c
Thirteen Days in September: https://amzn.to/3Fb3EkM
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The Hundred-Year Marathon: https://amzn.to/3LRobP7
Destined for War: https://amzn.to/3rKwGEE

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OUTLINE:
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=== Recorded on Mon, Oct 9 ===
(00:00) – Introduction
(07:02) – Hamas attack on Israel
(09:55) – Response to attack
(16:14) – History of Hamas
(18:54) – Iran
(20:41) – Al-Aqsa Mosque
(27:06) – Abraham Accords
(36:00) – Trump vs Biden on Middle East
(45:00) – Israeli-Saudi Normalization
(49:12) – How the Israel-Gaza war ends
(53:29) – Benjamin Netanyahu
(57:06) – Palestinian support
=== Recorded on Thu, Oct 5 ===
(59:47) – Trump 2024
(1:03:15) – Human nature
(1:10:13) – Geopolitics and negotiation
(1:18:56) – North Korea
(1:27:35) – Personalities of leaders
(1:34:11) – Government bureaucracy
(1:39:56) – Accusations of collusion with Russia
(1:49:35) – Ivanka
(1:55:30) – Father
(2:04:13) – Money and power
(2:12:56) – Trust and betrayal
(2:21:57) – Mohammed bin Salman
(2:44:16) – Israeli–Palestinian peace process
(2:58:47) – Abraham Accords and Arab-Israeli normalization
(3:08:53) – Donald Trump
(3:13:59) – War in Ukraine
(3:19:14) – Vladimir Putin
(3:26:33) – China
(3:44:50) – Learning process
(3:51:19) – Hope for the future

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