In this lively discussion, Mike Isaac, a seasoned New York Times tech reporter, dissects the alarming trend of 'Greg Steube-fication' among tech CEOs. The conversation humorously critiques British politics and the absurdities of cringe culture, while exploring the chaotic intersection of oligarchs, tech, and government. Isaac sheds light on Mark Zuckerberg’s tangled political maneuvers and the challenges he faces amid antitrust scrutiny. The dialogue also dives deep into the superficiality of trust among elites, revealing the complexities of modern leadership and public perception.