Pod Force One Doug Burgum: Beating China, Reversing Biden’s Climate Chaos and Restoring US Power
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Sep 3, 2025 
Doug Burgum, former governor of North Dakota and Secretary of the Interior, shares insights on revitalizing U.S. energy independence and tackling China's supply chain power. He discusses unlocking $8 trillion in land assets to tackle the national debt and critiques current energy policies. Burgum recounts the amusing story of renaming the Gulf of America aboard Air Force One and opens up about his wife's struggle with addiction, emphasizing resilience and the importance of community support in overcoming challenges.
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Energy As National Security
- Burgum frames energy policy as national security and economic independence from China.
- He argues for all-of-the-above energy including geothermal, nuclear, oil, gas and coal to ensure reliable power for AI and industry.
China's Coal Buildup Threatens Leverage
- Burgum highlights China's rapid coal expansion and how sanctions failed when adversaries sold discounted oil to China.
- He connects energy production abroad to geopolitical stability and U.S. leverage.
Federal Land As Undervalued Asset
- Burgum treats federal lands as a massive underused national balance sheet worth trillions.
- He argues mapping and responsibly developing those assets can raise returns and reduce national debt.