Open to Debate Is Musk’s DOGE Dodging the Law?
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Mar 7, 2025 In this engaging discussion, Michael W. McConnell, a former U.S. Court of Appeals Judge and law professor at Stanford, debates the legality of Elon Musk's actions involving DOGE. He examines the intricate legal dynamics and potential conflicts of interest stemming from Musk’s government role. The conversation dives into constitutional concerns, the impacts of technology on legality, and accountability within the Trump administration. McConnell’s insights challenge assumptions about governance and ethics, making for a thought-provoking exchange.
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Opening Arguments on DOGE's Legality
- Larry Tribe argues that Elon Musk's DOGE is dodging the law due to conflicts of interest, executive overreach, and violations of privacy and removal laws.
- Michael McConnell contends that while some of the Trump administration's actions may be unlawful, DOGE's actions, based on current evidence, are not.
McConnell's Defense of DOGE
- Michael McConnell agrees with some legal principles raised but questions whether DOGE has violated them, citing a judge's refusal to issue orders against DOGE.
- He emphasizes the need for evidence beyond media reports and hearsay before making legal judgments.
Tribe's Anecdotes of DOGE's Impact
- Larry Tribe recounts instances of people losing access to offices and jobs due to DOGE's actions, emphasizing these are not rumors but real people affected.
- He argues that Congress holds the power of the purse, and DOGE's actions violate this principle.
