Josh Williams is Lead Pastor of the Elm City Vineyard (ECV) in New Haven, CT and serves on the Executive Board for Vineyard USA. Originally from Iowa, Josh moved to New Haven to attend Yale, and later Yale Divinity School where he earned his M.Div.  At Yale, he served as a campus minister for InterVarsity before becoming ECV’s first full-time pastor in 2014. He currently lives with his wife Tina (vocal phenom and previous Ferment podcast guest) and their daughter Zoe. In this episode, Josh and our host Adam Russell discuss Josh's reluctant journey into pastoral ministry and explore the power of ministering with your spouse, the art of preaching like a worship leader, and the concept of worship as protest.