Jack Neel Podcast

"Maximize Your Looks!" Clavicular Exposes Harsh Truth About Dating, Attraction, and Success

Nov 13, 2025
In a candid conversation, Clavicular shares his early journey into testosterone use starting at 14, revealing the challenges he faced with parental reactions. He discusses strategies for maximizing physical appearance, including limb-lengthening and planned jaw surgeries, while assessing the importance of facial attractiveness over physique. Examining dating dynamics, he delves into how looks versus personality play a role in relationships. Throughout, he emphasizes the need for responsible messaging in the optimization community and reflects on the risks of his choices.
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ANECDOTE

Teen Start With Testosterone

  • At 14 Braden (Clavicular) began injecting testosterone to accelerate puberty and physique gains. He says he never regretted it and felt it matured his appearance early.
INSIGHT

Results Trump Effort

  • Clavicular values visible results over effort because people judge outcomes, not process. He prioritizes efficiency and 'smart work' instead of glorifying hard work.
ADVICE

Weigh Limb Lengthening Risks

  • Consider limb lengthening only if you can handle long recovery, high cost, and lost work time. Weigh presence gains (percentile jumps) against the painful, months-long rehabilitation.
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