This week, I welcome two pioneers who’ve been deeply engaged in medical practice and training, research, health disparities, and community interventions for years. Dr. Kendra Outler and Dr. Pebbles Fagan join to share their experiences working in academic, government and military arenas, in urban and rural areas, and with marginalized communities. In this conversation, we consider how we treat one another in our communities and discuss the necessity of working in coalitions with a spirit of collectivism. Both guests describe the realities of navigating when resources are trimmed and when retaliation arises. They highlight the ways we can empower one another, instead of staying in a place of anger. They remind us of our need to be complimentary, knowing that there is a role for everyone to play. We also consider the role of gratitude and hope, amidst the necessity to push for progress and change. Another truly informative, thought provoking, and generative conversation