361: Lingering Loyalties, Distant Intimacies

Jun 25, 2025

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Evolutionary psychologist, Doug Lisle, PhD discusses listener questions with co-host, Nathan Gershfeld.

0:00 Teaser Clips & Intro

04:25. Q1: Divorced dad entangled with ex

12:28 Genetic commitment calculations

27:14 Q2: Stuck with a closed-off boyfriend

33:53 Hugging an un-huggable friend

42:09 Final thoughts

Q1: Any advice for a divorced dad who is still entangled with his ex wife? We have been divorced over five years now, but are still friends and live near one another. I initiated the divorce for a few reasons, mainly her emotional instability and our lack of intimacy. My ex is a nice person, but emotionally fragile. I help her a lot because we have two kids together and because she cannot handle working full time, so doesn’t make much money. I pay almost all of the bills for our kids and am often at her house. I don’t mind doing these things, but I can tell this is a turn off and red flag for women I have dated. The longest relationship I have had was just a few months, and that woman told me she felt she couldn’t trust me not to go back to my ex and that she knew she would never be a bigger priority than my ex. Am I wrong to feel this level of responsibility to someone I am no longer married to? Is it realistic to expect I can ever find love again while remaining close to my ex? If so, how should I approach this topic with romantic prospects?

Q2: I have been with my boyfriend for 6 years, he is 8 years older than me and we got together when I was 22. We do not live together. He is very emotionally closed off and says this is because his parents never showed him much affection or told him they loved him so he’s never learned that behaviour. He is also not very affectionate and gets visibly uncomfortable when I kiss him a few times in a row and rarely initiates this type of affection. I sometimes feel like I have a friendship, not a relationship. It’s really difficult to have serious conversations about emotional issues or our future , including the prospect of living together as he gets overwhelmed and closes off. When I spoke to him about the rejection I feel when he’s not affectionate he responded saying that is him being a genuine version of himself and he’s not willing to fake it. Is this just a difference of personality types and do you have any methods to navigate these issues?

X: @BeatYourGenes

Web: www.beatyourgenes.org

Doug Lisle, PhD www.esteemdynamics.com

Nathan Gershfeld, DC www.fastingescape.com

Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones • Ferenc Hegedus Licensed for use