British-born US intelligence analyst FIONA HILL, America’s top Russia expert, became an overnight hero when she demolished Donald Trump’s Ukraine hoax before the House Intelligence Committee in 2019. In a fascinating conversation she tells us what it’s like to go up against a strongman’s political machine – and why Trumpism is still dangerous. Plus, is the tide of populism starting to ebb? And what pop songs changed our minds about politics?

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• “I felt I had to stand up against Trump. Would I just stand on the sidelines and watch all this happen?” – FIONA HILL

• “Elections come and go, but grievances are forever.” – YASMEEN SERHAN

• “My favourite text message from a Tory MP last week just read ‘Christ’.” – MARIE LE CONTE

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Written, presented and produced by Andrew Harrison with Yasmeen Serhan and Marie le Conte. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic . Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER IS A PODMASTERS PRODUCTION

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Against the Trump Machine: Guest Fiona Hill on power and populists