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Jason W. Moore on Socialism in the Web of Life

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Sep 14, 2025

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Jason W. Moore

Jason W. Moore, an environmental historian at Binghamton University, dives into the complex interplay of socialism and ecology. He critiques the nature-society divide and how it distorts historical narratives. Moore emphasizes the interconnectedness of labor and nature, arguing for alternative frameworks in socialist thought. He discusses the need for radical democratization of governance and the critical importance of unifying the working class. The conversation challenges collapse narratives and calls for crisis-oriented solutions to ecological issues, highlighting the potential for renewed social movements.

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Nature Is A Bourgeois Ruling Abstraction

The term 'nature' with a capital N is a bourgeois ruling abstraction that enabled domination and colonialism.
Unthinking that concept is necessary to imagine socialist alternatives tied to real historical processes.

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Resolve Theory On The Real Ground Of History

World-ecology insists on resolving theory on the 'real ground of history' rather than abstract ontologies.
Marx's abstractions (man, nature, labor) must be historically specific to avoid one-sided eco-theory.

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Oikaios: Pulse Of Life-Making

The oikaios names the pulse of life-making and rejects both labor-reductionism and nature-worship.
Socialist thought must synthesize Marx's labor ontology with the generative dynamics of ecosystems.

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Interconnectedness of Labor and Nature

12:37 • 23min

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Rethinking Measurement in Socialist Frameworks

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Radical Democratization and Governance in the Web of Life

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The Complexities of Socialism and Imperial Resistance

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Beyond Collapse Narratives

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Unifying the Working Class for Revolutionary Change

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Renewal of Social Movements in Challenging Times

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Jason W. Moore discusses the problematic history of the nature-society divide, his alternative world-ecology approach and the challenges of building socialism.

Shownotes

Jason’s personal website:

https://jasonwmoore.com/

Jason at Binghamtom University:

https://www.binghamton.edu/sociology/faculty/profile.html?id=jwmoore

The World-Ecology Research Collective:

https://worldecologynetwork.wordpress.com/

https://www.researchgate.net/lab/World-Ecology-Research-Collective-Jason-W-Moore

Moore, J. W., & Patel, R. (2020). A History of the World in Seven Cheap Things. A Guide to Capitalism, Nature, and the Future of the Planet. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/817-a-history-of-the-world-in-seven-cheap-things

Moore, J. W. (2015). Capitalism in the Web of Life. Ecology and the Accumulation of Capital. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/74-capitalism-in-the-web-of-life

for an overview of different approaches to conceptualizing society/capitalism and nature:

https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andreas-malm/

on Andreas Malm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Malm

Malm, A. (2018). The Progress of this Storm. Nature and Society in a Warming World. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/574-the-progress-of-this-storm

Malm, A. (2016). Fossil Capital. The Rise of Steam Power and the Roots of Global Warming. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/135-fossil-capital

Federici, S. (2004). Caliban and the Witch. Autonomedia.

https://files.libcom.org/files/Caliban%20and%20the%20Witch.pdf

on Ernst Haeckel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Haeckel

see also the chapter on Haeckel and the German Monist League in:

Gasman, D. (2017). The scientific Origins of National Socialism. Routledge.

https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9781315134789/scientific-origins-national-socialism-daniel-gasman

on Actor-Network Theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor%E2%80%93network_theory

on Bruno Latour:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Latour

on John Bellamy Foster:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bellamy_Foster

Bellamy, J. F. (2000) Marx’s Ecology. Materialism and Nature. Monthly Review Press.

https://ia904504.us.archive.org/9/items/526394/John%20Bellamy%20Foster.%20Marx%27s%20Ecology..pdf

on Kohei Saito:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohei_Saito

on Pietro Verri:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietro_Verri

Marx, K. (1976). Capital. A Critique of Political Economy. Volume One. Penguin.

https://www.surplusvalue.org.au/Marxism/Capital%20-%20Vol.%201%20Penguin.pdf

Marx’s Theses on Feuerbach:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/theses.htm

Marx’s Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/preface.htm

Marx’s and Engel’s German Ideology:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/

Marx’s Capital Vol. 3.:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/

Marx’s On The Jewish Question:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

on Alfred Sohn-Rethel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Sohn-Rethel

Machado, C. & Miguel, N. (2013). The Money of the Mind and the God of Commodities. The real abstraction according to Sohn-Rethel.

https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/48961/1/MPRA_paper_48961.pdf

on Donna Haraway:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Haraway

on the “Special Period” in Cuba:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Period

on James Lovelock:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock

Lovelock, J. (1979). Gaia. A New Look at Life on Earth. Oxford University Press.

https://global.oup.com/academic/product/gaia-9780198784883?cc=de&lang=en&#

on “Social metabolism”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_metabolism

on Raymond Williams:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Williams

Smele, J. D. (2016). The ‘Russian’ Civil Wars, 1916-1926. Ten Years that Shook the World. Hurst.

https://www.hurstpublishers.com/book/the-russian-civil-wars-1916-1926/

Engel-Di Mauro, S. (2021). Socialist States and the Environment. Lessons for Eco-Socialist Futures. Pluto Press.

https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745340418/socialist-states-and-the-environment/

Amin, S. (1990). Delinking. Towards a Polycentric World. Zed Books.

https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/delinking-9780862328030/

on material and energy flow accounting:

see the chapter on that topic in:

Bartelmus, P. (2008). Quantitative Eco-nomics. How sustainable are our economies. Springer.

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-1-4020-6966-6

Zeug, W. (2025). INDEP talk with Walther Zeug: Democratic Economic Planning through Cybernetics & Holistic Accounting.

https://youtu.be/I4_8_lDfwEw?si=J-kdRzjIehZqPgs0

Kula, W. (2016). Measures and Men. Princeton University Press.

https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691639079/measures-and-men

Echterhölter, A. M. (2019). Quantification as Conflict. Witold Kula’s Political Metrology and Its Reception in the West . Historyka : studia metodologiczne, 49, 117-141 . Article 9.

https://journals.pan.pl/Content/114031/PDF/7%20ECHTERH%C3%96LTER.pdf

on Max Weber:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Weber

on Double-entry bookkeeping:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_bookkeeping

on “proletarian science”:

Moore, J.W. (2025). Nature and other dangerous words: Marx, method and the proletarian standpoint in the web of life. Dialectical Anthropology. 49, 149–167.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10624-025-09775-x

on Ecosystem services:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem_service

on the “Ecological footprint” concept:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_footprint

on Thomas Müntzer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_M%C3%BCntzer

on the Royal Botanic Gardens/Kew Gardens:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Botanic_Gardens_(Kew)

on the Stakhanovite movement:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakhanovite_movement

on Cybernetics: