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Despite living and practicing in the very blue state of Oregon, Stephanie Winn, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, realized something didn’t feel quite right about immediately affirming gender dysphoric kids.

“As soon as I began learning about detransitioners I realized that our field was responsible for great harm by buying into this idea that affirming a person's gender identity rather than exploring how they came to that conclusion about themselves—that we were actually doing irrevocable harm to people. So that inspired me to reach out to the detransitioner community and start learning everything I could,” said Winn.

Winn is the host of the “You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist” podcast and associate producer of the new documentary “No Way Back: The Reality of Gender Affirming Care,” which premieres in select AMC Theaters for one day only on Wednesday, June 21st.