
Bitcoin Magazine Podcast The “Inevitable” Game Theory of Institutional Adoption: Bullish (and Dangerous?)
Nov 10, 2025
Ken Egan, a director at the Bitcoin Policy Institute focused on Bitcoin's legislative impacts, and Stephen Pollock, senior VP and community engagement advocate, dive deep into institutional adoption. They discuss JP Morgan's groundbreaking acceptance of Bitcoin as collateral, reflecting a significant cultural shift on Wall Street. They also address the risks of regulatory capture and the need for policy protections as Bitcoin becomes integrated into traditional finance. Ultimately, they explore whether this trend validates Bitcoin’s mission or poses a threat to its foundational principles.
AI Snips
Chapters
Books
Transcript
Episode notes
Early Banter Shows Rapid Normalization
- Ken Egan joked about the Treasury Secretary tweeting Bitcoin has run for 17 years and asked, 'Why can't the government start again?'.
- Stephen Pollock read rapid Bitcoin headlines and said the taboo is now not talking about Bitcoin in your boardroom.
Samurai Wallet Case Reveals Prosecutorial Strategy
- Zack Shapiro explained Samurai Wallet defendants pled to an Orwellian 'unlicensed money transmission' charge despite not transmitting funds.
- He argued the plea avoided a riskier money laundering trial and highlights prosecutorial tactics against crypto developers.
Push For Developer Protections In Law
- Zack Shapiro urged passing legislative protections like the Clarity Act to prevent future prosecutions of developers.
- He recommended legal reforms to create durable safeguards for decentralized software builders.


