Pluribus: The Official Podcast S1E2: Pirate Lady
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Nov 7, 2025 
Vince Gilligan, acclaimed creator and director, is joined by Karolina Wydra, who portrays Zosia, alongside executive producer Diane Mercer and production designer Denise Pizzini. They explore the ambitious scale of 'Pirate Lady,' highlighting the extensive shoot across varied locations. Karolina shares her experience of taxiing a vintage plane for realism, while Denise discusses creating a practical Air Force One set. The team also dives into character preparation and the detailed work behind designing a believable cul-de-sac neighborhood, emphasizing the collaboration that brings their vision to life.
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Building A Practical Air Force One
- Denise Pizzini described building a massive practical Air Force One set around a real plane door to allow actors to walk up and into the aircraft.
- The team sourced airplane parts from the Arizona graveyard and built interiors on stage for authentic interaction.
Favor Practical Builds Over Green Screen
- Diane Mercer explained build-practical elements whenever possible to let actors interact and avoid overreliance on green screen.
- Practical construction preserves authenticity and gives directors the flexibility Vince wanted for long camera moves.
Actor Taxied A Real Vintage Plane
- Vince Gilligan and Karolina Wydra recounted that Karolina actually taxied a large vintage plane on set, guided by a pilot in the cockpit.
- The production flew the old plane from Malaysia and positioned it so what appears outside the aircraft windows is real airport action.