Planet Normal Reform and Farage smears only make the Party stronger
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Dec 11, 2025 
Zia Yusuf, Head of Policy for Reform UK and former chairman, joins the conversation to reveal his thoughts on the political landscape. He describes the smear campaign against Nigel Farage as one of the most coordinated efforts in recent history. Zia shares insights on the migration crisis, advocating for robust measures and mass deportations. He also discusses how public sentiment is shifting towards immigration issues, framing it as a winning narrative for Reform UK. Zia's personal journey adds a compelling angle to the discourse.
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Caretaker PM With Fragile Mandate
- Keir Starmer is described as a "caretaker Prime Minister" with a weak mandate, having won only 33% of the vote in a low-turnout election.
- Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan argue Labour's legitimacy and cohesion are fraying amid poor economic indicators.
Domestic Policy Driving Economic Gloom
- Hosts link rising unemployment and slowdown to Rachel Reeves' employer national insurance hike.
- They say policy choices, not global shocks, are driving UK economic gloom this festive season.
Gloom Despite Benign Global Conditions
- Liam Halligan highlights benign global factors yet persistent UK pessimism, calling it the "ghost of economic gloom".
- He warns that future oil price or market turmoil would make the situation much worse.