SIO379: Does Which College You Go To Really Matter?
Aug 21, 2023
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The podcast explores the claim that the choice of college doesn't make a difference in one's life. It discusses research on college outcomes, the relationship between elite schools and earnings, and the impact of college selectivity on future income. The podcast also explores the benefits of attending selective schools for lower-income students and examines the effects of college attendance on socioeconomic status. It addresses the misrepresentation of studies and the influence of the internet and tech era.
Attending a highly selective college does not significantly impact future earnings, but it can increase the likelihood of obtaining a postgraduate degree.
College selectivity can provide low-income students with valuable connections and opportunities, helping to equalize economic disparities.
Unobservable factors, such as ambition and self-revelation, play a significant role in determining future earnings, emphasizing the importance of individual characteristics over school selectivity.
Deep dives
Does college selection make a big difference?
The podcast episode explores the claim made in a previous episode that the college you attend does not significantly impact your life and job outcomes. Dr. Elizabeth Deitch, an expert in organizational psychology, conducted extensive research to investigate this claim. The research is based on two studies conducted by Stacy Dale and Paul Kruger that used the college and beyond survey data set. The first study, published in 2002, analyzed data from people who entered college in 1976, and the second study, published in 2014, also included a cohort that entered college in 1989. The studies aimed to determine if college selectivity has an impact on future earnings, taking into account factors such as SAT scores, parental income, and other observable characteristics of students. The results suggest that after controlling for these factors, the selectivity of the college attended does not significantly affect future earnings. However, the studies show that college selectivity can have a positive impact on the likelihood of obtaining a postgraduate degree, and lower-income students may benefit more from attending highly selective schools in terms of future earnings.
Unobservable characteristics and college selectivity
One key focus of the research was to explore the impact of unobservable characteristics, such as ambition and motivation, that influence college admissions and choices. The studies found that when accounting for these unobservable traits, the observed relationship between college selectivity and future earnings became less significant. For example, students with lower parental income tended to benefit more from highly selective schools, as these institutions provided valuable connections and opportunities that their backgrounds might not otherwise afford. This finding supports the notion that attending elite schools can help equalize economic disparities by offering low-income students access to resources and networks that they may not have otherwise. However, the research also indicates that factors like class rank and grades in college could potentially counterbalance the effects of selectivity on future earnings.
Limitations and future research
While the studies shed light on the relationship between college selectivity and future outcomes, it's important to note their limitations. The research primarily focuses on earnings as an outcome measure, rather than other factors such as job placement or graduation rates. Additionally, the data sets used in the studies only include a limited number of schools, primarily elite institutions, with some sub-level representation. Consequently, the findings may not fully capture the experiences of students from historically black colleges and universities or less selective schools. Future research could explore a wider range of outcomes and include a more diverse range of institutions to provide a comprehensive understanding of the impact of college selection on various aspects of student life and success.
The role of selectivity in school quality
The podcast explores how the selectivity of a school, determined by the average SAT score of incoming students, has been traditionally used as a measure of school quality. However, a study shows that once unobservable factors, such as a student's application behavior, are taken into account, the impact of school selectivity on earnings becomes negligible. The study suggests that it is the characteristics of individual students, rather than the school they attend, that have a greater influence on their future earnings.
The influence of unobservable factors
The study examines the self-revelation model, which uses a student's application behavior to infer unobservable characteristics. It reveals that factors such as ambition, self-image, and willingness to aim high can impact future earnings. The number of schools a student applies to and the average SAT score of those schools are used as indicators of self-revelation. The study demonstrates that these factors play a significant role in determining outcomes, highlighting the importance of considering unobservable factors when evaluating the impact of school selectivity on individual success.
This episode, like a few before it, was inspired by a Dear Old Dads! A while back, Tom dropped the bombshell over there that which college you go to really doesn't matter much. Dr. Elizabeth Deitch happens to be a listener of both shows and has a PhD in Organizational Psychology, and was very curious to see if this was an accurate representation of the available data. So, she underwent a massive deep dive! So, listen in and find out what the science says! This was such a massive research undertaking that Beth actually has two episodes worth of goodness for us. Listen to part 2 on Patreon now! Are you an expert in something and want to be on the show? Apply here! Please please pretty please support the show on patreon! You get ad free episodes, early episodes, and other bonus content!
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