Jes Baker, author of Landwhale and Things No One Will Tell Fat Girls is on the show talking about the difference between body love and body liberation, doing things she never thought she could, the struggle with finding a good relationship with food and more. In this episode, we chat about: - Jes tells her story of how she found fat acceptance and how this changed her life, - What she wants people to get out of Landwhale and why it was such a hard book to write,  - Why “bopo light” is necessary and a needed stepping stone, - The struggle she had in healing her relationship with food and what is working for her right now, - Why understanding things logically is different than implementing it into your life, - The difference between body love and body liberation and how liberation is needed to really heal, - What helped her to do the myriad of things she never thought she could do and her advice for others,  - Why this idea of being bulletproof to criticism and trolling doesn’t exist and why this idea is harmful,  - Why we need more vulnerability,  Plus, so much more!