Episode 970: Zionism's Endless Violence w/ Tim Kelly
Nov 5, 2023
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Tim Kelly, host of Our Interesting Times podcast, joins Pete to discuss recent violence in Palestine, examining its history, propaganda, social media response, and dissent in the US state department. They analyze the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, questioning violence levels before Jewish settlement and the credibility of the Israeli government. They also explore the influence of a specific group in society, health insurance alternatives, generational changes, Jewish identity politics, and backlash against cancel culture.
Growing dissent within the US State Department against blindly supporting Israel's actions.
Skepticism towards Israeli propaganda and influence, specifically related to the Holocaust card, continued bombing of Gaza, and biased Lehi vetting process.
Indications of dissent within the US government, particularly the State Department, towards the overwhelming influence of Jewish individuals and lobbying groups on US foreign policy.
Deep dives
Concerns over Israel's military actions within State Department
A veteran State Department official, Josh Paul, resigned due to concerns over Israel's military actions and the broken Lehi vetting process. He stated that the State Department has identified many Israeli defense force units of concern but does not have the power to address the violations due to political sensitivity and lack of senior level sign-off. This suggests a mutiny brewing within the State Department against blindly supporting Israel's actions.
Pushback against Israeli propaganda and influence
Protests against Israel's military actions have been widespread, even among younger demographics, as seen in poll results. The growing skepticism towards Israeli propaganda and influence can be attributed to the overplaying of the Holocaust card, the continued bombing of Gaza, and the Israeli government's attempts to control the narrative. This pushback extends beyond mere criticism of Israel's actions, with concerns being raised about human rights violations and the biased Lehi vetting process that ignores Israeli units involved in such violations.
Challenges to Jewish control of US foreign policy
There are indications of dissent within the US government, particularly the State Department, towards the overwhelming influence of Jewish individuals and lobbying groups on US foreign policy. This dissent is likely driven by the realization that Israel's actions could lead to catastrophic consequences, such as a potential third world war. The waning influence of the WASP elite and the rise of Jewish control in US foreign policy has created a political class that is compromised and unable to make rational decisions, further fueling the need for dissent within government institutions.
The influence of Christian Zionism and the importance of church indoctrination
One of the main points discussed in the podcast episode is the influence of Christian Zionism and how church indoctrination plays a crucial role in promoting it. The speaker emphasizes that younger generations who are not attending church are missing out on the indoctrination into Christian Zionism, which involves beliefs about Israel's claim to land based on biblical references. The lack of exposure to church teachings could lead to a decreased resonance with Old Testament references and hinder the manipulation of younger, less-white cohorts through white guilt. The discussion highlights the alleged efforts of some Jewish individuals to subvert countries and create diversity to weaken ethnic identities and consolidate power.
The decline of Israeli military readiness and the demoralization of the US military
Another significant point addressed in the episode is the decline of Israeli military readiness and the demoralization of the US military. The speaker asserts that the Israeli military has shifted from being proactive and battle-hardened to more of an occupation force, often relying on US support. They question whether the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have the necessary training, readiness, and manpower to confront organized military threats effectively. Similar concerns are raised regarding the US military, where it is suggested that changes in recruitment and a lack of enthusiasm among certain demographic groups, particularly straight white males, contribute to low morale. The episode also suggests that Jewish influence and manipulation, along with cultural and moral degeneration, have led to a decline in US military strength, potentially impacting Israel's reliance on American support in conflicts.
