The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 265 | Les McKeown on the Keys to Scaling Your Church Or Business, Why Growth Doesn't Necessarily Mean You're Ready to Scale, and How Scaling Actually Reduces Stress on You and Your Team

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May 21, 2019
Les McKeown, an author and entrepreneur, specializes in helping leaders achieve predictable success. In a fascinating discussion, he breaks down the differences between growth and scaling, emphasizing that real scalability requires structured systems. He shares insights on decision-making dynamics that promote collaboration over hierarchy. Delegation, overcoming the emotional challenges of succession, and the importance of distinct organizational identities are also key topics. McKeown's practical advice is aimed at empowering leaders to create sustainable growth and reduce stress.
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INSIGHT

Seven Predictable Growth Stages

  • Organizations experience a growth arc with seven predictable stages: Early Struggle, Fun, Whitewater, Predictable Success, Treadmill, Big Rut, and Death Rattle.
  • Unlike humans, organizations can avoid decline stages by managing growth transitions effectively.
INSIGHT

Balance Vision and Systems

  • Growth phase 'Fun' has entrepreneurial zeal but caps growth due to lack of scalable systems.
  • 'Predictable Success' balances vision and systems, enabling sustained and scalable growth.
ADVICE

Build Balanced Leadership Roles

  • Integrate visionaries, operators, and processors to reach predictable success and enable scalability.
  • Develop synergists to balance these roles and avoid conflict for effective scaling.
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