The Daily Beast Podcast The ‘Real Ways’ MAGA Is Now Breaking With Trump
Oct 19, 2025
Michael Wolff, an author and keen observer of American politics, joins to dissect the evolving dynamics within MAGA. They explore the widening rift over Trump's foreign policy and his recent ‘victory tour’ in the Middle East. Wolff questions the effectiveness of the 'No Kings' protests, suggesting they should target deeper issues like the Epstein files. Engaging in a lively debate, they assess how Trump's triumphalism might be blinding him to domestic unrest and alienating parts of his base, especially with his provocative rhetoric.
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Inside Trump’s Mind Drives Policy
- Michael Wolff says everything in American politics now happens inside Trump's head rather than institutions.
- He argues Trump's psychology singularly shapes national outcomes and strategy on a daily basis.
Clarity Determines Protest Power
- Wolff and Joanna argue 'No King' protests lack a clear, compelling target and message.
- They suggest a focused demand like releasing the Epstein files would mobilize far more people.
Concentrate Protests In Washington
- Michael Wolff advises that mass effect requires concentrated, physical protests in Washington, not dispersed local actions.
- He stresses organizers must create unavoidable visibility to force accountability from leaders.