What do Microsoft and a dental care marketplace have in common? Plenty, if you look at it from the inside-out. Dave Monahan, CEO of Kleer, got his entrepreneurial training at Microsoft, where he learned how to focus on solutions, build transparency, and innovate faster. Today, Dave is building a pandemic-proof culture at Kleer, a dental care marketplace aiming to replace inefficient insurance plans. In this episode of The Modern CFO podcast, Dave and host Andrew Seski talk about the benefits of transparency, where to look for product data, and how Kleer survived COVID-19.
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4:22 - Microsoft-made entrepreneur
In his first year at Microsoft, Dave learned from CEO Steve Ballmer how to stay solution-focused.
“The person running that area asked me to present the first 10 minutes of the presentation... when I was done, [Steve’s] first words to me were, ‘I hated that presentation.’ I’m in front of Steve and his leadership team and all the leaders of the group I just joined. And so he goes, ‘let me tell you why.’ And he said, ‘you presented a number of problems. You did not give me any solutions.’ I think I was 29 or so at this point. And then that one for me was, all right. I will never ever do that again. If I'm going to go into a presentation anytime and anywhere, and I am ever going to present any kind of issue or problem, I will not only have the solution, but I'll have the data to back it up.”
6:44 - A model of transparency
Microsoft’s open-access information model encouraged responsibility and encouraged healthy risk-taking.
“Transparency was critical to Microsoft's success. They shared everything. It was the first time I'd been in an organization where you could get information about anything within the company. It was very open. Like these presentations we would do - there was, I can't remember the exact number, maybe 30 or 40 subsidiaries in Microsoft - at the time I could go get ahold of all their presentations and look at all their data and the company would post results on a weekly basis. And you can dig in and take a look at it in as much detail as you wanted. With that transparency though, they're their team's responsibility. So they assumed, ‘okay, if you have all that information, I'm mobilizing you to do things and take risks.’”
7:35 - If you gotta fail, do it with data
Microsoft’s corporate culture encouraged rapid experimentation backed by smart data to keep innovation moving.
“The second culture piece that came from Microsoft for me, that I instill in every company I'm at is to try things, you know, always try moving forward. It's okay to fail. I know this is sort of a common term now, but back then it was sort of new for me: good news travels fast, bad news travels faster. Something doesn't work, try things, experiment, it doesn't work, kill it fast. It’s really important to try, but also kill when needed. And so that was our thing - just bringing that sort of culture of experimentation to the company that I'm with. And then the other piece of both of those items needs support from a data infrastructure standpoint. You don't want paralysis by analysis, but you want data and information to support where you're going and the decisions you're making.”
9:25 - The Kleer revolution
Dave’s company, Kleer, is a dental practice marketplace connecting patients, dentists, and affordable care.
“So it's a bit of a parlor game, dental insurance, and it ends up costing the dental practice a lot of money, and patients and employers a lot of money...we decided the dental space needed was an open marketplace where dentists and patients can connect directly without a middleman in the way. We created a platform that enables dental practices to design care plans for the patients. And these care plans can be different because one practice might be tailored towards older patients, but others would be tailored towards younger patients. And then the patients pay a subscription to dental practice. A simple subscription could be twenty-five dollars a month, $30 a month, and they get pretty much everything that's in insurance. You get your exams, your cleanings, your x-rays, and then you get discounts off of other treatments. But it costs about 30 or 40%, less than dental insurance. And it also has like, no, there's only no tax. There's no deductibles, there's no waiting periods, all that stuff's going away because we've gotten rid of that middleman. There's no reason for that middleman to be in the way. And once you get rid of that middleman, get rid of all the wasted inefficiency.”
17:37- Here’s to the milestones
As the company grows, the Kleer team builds camaraderie and motivation with a culture of celebration.
“A big part of how we run Kleer - or any company I'm in - is it's not me making all the decisions. It's me asking others to sort of step in and take responsibility for certain things. And so one person on my team is in charge of making sure we are celebrating and taking a break, making sure everybody is having fun and enjoying themselves. So what he's put in place is once a quarter, we actually go off-site. Now, obviously, the pandemic has caused an issue with this, but prior to the pandemic - and we're going to start it up again as soon as everything's back to normal - is once a quarter, we go out and do something and it can be all kinds of different things from bowling to ax throwing to make sure that's part of our culture is that we're willing to relax and enjoy each other and see each other on a personal side. We find the milestones in the company that really matter, and we celebrate those.”
21:20 - How transparency beat COVID-19
How do you save a start-up in a pandemic? Reinforce your transparent culture to rally your team - and extend the courtesy to customers, too.
“So we reflected on that when COVID hit and decided this was a chance to actually rally the company. And to position that as a major challenge, where everybody's going to learn through the challenge, but we're going to have to sacrifice to get through it. So we basically rallied the team around, ‘Hey guys, we're going to get through this, it's going to be some pain along the way, but we're going to come out relatively stronger than any of our competition. So on the other side of this thing, we'll be in a better position than we were prior to it.’ We just basically got feedback from everybody in the company and we had open sessions and everybody was willing to sacrifice. We ended up cutting salaries drastically. We ended up negotiating ahead, my COO went out and negotiated with our vendors to get lots of concessions from a cost standpoint…we actually implemented a thing for our dental practices where they could suspend their subscription. So if a patient was paying a subscription, we enabled dental practices to suspend the subscription until the pandemic passes. Then they can come back into the office. The net was the goodwill we created.”
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