From working in the post room in a record label to becoming the world’s best known music mogul, this is the Simon Cowell you don’t see on TV.

Simon Cowell is a world-renowned record producer, talent scout, and music mogul. He is best known for being a judge on some of the world’s most popular TV shows including, ‘The X Factor’, ‘Britain’s Got Talent’, ‘Pop Idol’, and ‘American Idol’.

In this episode, Simon and Steven discuss topics such as, being bankrupt at 30, working his way up from the bottom, his life threatening accident, how his son’s birth changed his life, and his one and only regret about One Direction.

(00:00) Intro

(00:51) Early Context

(02:37) Your Parents

(03:52) Your Work Ethic, Where Does That Come From

(06:40) The Importance of Respect

(10:22) Making the Decision to Pursue Entertainment

(15:44) Working in the Post Room at a Record Label

(19:23) Making His Way Up in the Music Industry

(23:20) Starting a Record Label with Your Boss

(28:39) Creating Your First Smash Hit Record

(31:57) I Don't Know How Music Is Made, Staying in the Mind of the Consumer

(39:39) Going Broke Right After Creating Your First Smash Hit

(46:38) Meeting Pete Waterman, a Moment That Changed Everything

(50:36) Being an Early Adopter of TV

(59:49) Following Your Gut Regardless of the Criticism

(01:06:29) Finding Westlife

(01:09:29) Your Father Passing Away

(01:17:36) Your Life Changing After Your Son, Eric, Was Born

(01:23:08) Loyalty, Why It's So Important to Me

(01:25:34) Setting New Work Boundaries in My New Life

(01:29:14) Advice for a Young Simon Cowell

(01:32:02) The Importance of Hard Work

(01:34:29) Your Accident, Breaking Your Back in 3 Places

(01:39:38) Going to Therapy

(01:45:55) Foundational Advice for Anyone Starting Out in Their Career

(01:49:38) The Importance of Legacy

(01:53:01) The Rise of Bullying

(01:55:01) One Direction

(01:58:10) Searching for a New Boy Band

(02:03:32) Harry Styles

(02:05:53) AI Within the Music Industry

(02:09:47) Will One Direction Get Back Together?

(02:11:13) The Last Guest's Question

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