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SpyTalk

THE NEW COLD WAR

Apr 21, 2022
Robert Cardillo, former head of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, discusses the role of spy satellites in Ukraine and how images can be spoofed, while investigative reporter and author Scott Anderson dissects the differences between the old Cold War with Russia and the emerging new one.
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Quick takeaways

  • Satellite imagery has limitations and can be manipulated, highlighting the need for vigilance and transparency in its use.
  • Geospatial intelligence (including satellite imagery) is critical for understanding conflicts, and the combination of government and private industry capabilities provides a comprehensive understanding of threats.

Deep dives

The Inaccuracy of Satellite Imagery

Satellite imagery, while providing valuable context and awareness, does not show everything and has limitations. It offers a frame of reference and common awareness, but agreement on interpretation may vary. Private industry plays a crucial role in providing satellite imagery, working in partnership with the US intelligence community. The US government acquires commercial imagery for foundational work, while also relying on its own imaging capabilities for more specific intelligence needs, such as nuclear-related activities.

However, the sheer volume of imagery collected today requires the use of machines, algorithms, and computer vision tools to analyze the data. Traditional manual analysis is not feasible due to the overwhelming amount of information. It is important to ensure the authenticity and integrity of the imagery, as there is a risk of manipulated or false images being propagated. Examples of manipulated imagery, such as a fake image of a downed airliner during the Ukrainian conflict, highlight the potential consequences and the need for vigilance and transparency in the use of satellite imagery.

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