How could the integration of Pacific Island countries, Australia and New Zealand achieve development outcomes, remedy power asymmetries and inoculate against an excess of geopolitics in the Pacific region? With Director of Research at the Lowy Institue, Hervé Lemahieu, we discuss borrowing some of the logic of European integration to better equip the region to advance its collective interests.

Read Hervé Lemahieu’s piece, ‘How Australia Can Unleash Its Own “Brussels Effect” in the Pacific Island Region.’ here: https://www.australianforeignaffairs.com/essay/2024/02/dead-in-the-water

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Hervé Lemahieu x How Australia Can Unleash Its Own “Brussels Effect” in the Pacific Island Region