Join Payno & Hask, as they chat with Mike Brown about his transition from player to Sporting Director at Esher Rugby Club. They delve into his new role, challenges, and ask for his insights on the current state of Harlequins and Marcus Smith's future.

00:00 🛞 Sponsored by Continental Tyres

02:26🤓 Mike Brown's Journey to DoR

04:30 🟤 The Brown Philosophy

10:30 🏉 Putting the boots back on?

16:42 💬 Difficult Conversations

27:23 👂 Learnings from Cheika et al.

46:39 🃏What's going on at Quins?

01:00:50 🙏 Marcus Smith's Future

01:15:00 👀 Browny for Quins?

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The Making of a DOR: Mike Brown